diff --git a/domainlab/algos/msels/a_model_sel.py b/domainlab/algos/msels/a_model_sel.py
index 0902733ab..1f56811ce 100644
--- a/domainlab/algos/msels/a_model_sel.py
+++ b/domainlab/algos/msels/a_model_sel.py
@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ def __init__(self):
         self._observer = None
         self.msel = None
         self._max_es = None
+        self._model_selection_epoch = None
 
     def reset(self):
         """
@@ -54,8 +55,18 @@ def accept(self, trainer, observer4msel):
         if self.msel is not None:
             self.msel.accept(trainer, observer4msel)
 
+    def update(self, epoch, clear_counter=False):
+        """
+        level above the observer + visitor pattern to get information about the epoch
+        """
+        update = self.base_update(clear_counter)
+        if update:
+            self._model_selection_epoch = epoch
+
+        return update
+
     @abc.abstractmethod
-    def update(self, clear_counter=False):
+    def base_update(self, clear_counter=False):
         """
         observer + visitor pattern to trainer
         if the best model should be updated
@@ -101,3 +112,12 @@ def sel_model_te_acc(self):
         if self.msel is not None:
             return self.msel.sel_model_te_acc
         return -1
+
+    @property
+    def model_selection_epoch(self):
+        """
+        the epoch when the model was selected
+        """
+        if self._model_selection_epoch is not None:
+            return self._model_selection_epoch
+        return -1
diff --git a/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_oracle.py b/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_oracle.py
index 95be69f38..35943c295 100644
--- a/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_oracle.py
+++ b/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_oracle.py
@@ -30,14 +30,14 @@ def oracle_last_setpoint_sel_te_acc(self):
             return self.msel.oracle_last_setpoint_sel_te_acc
         return -1
 
-    def update(self, clear_counter=False):
+    def base_update(self, clear_counter=False):
         """
         if the best model should be updated
         """
         self.trainer.model.save("epoch")
         flag = False
         if self.observer4msel.metric_val is None:
-            return super().update(clear_counter)
+            return super().base_update(clear_counter)
         metric = self.observer4msel.metric_te[self.observer4msel.str_metric4msel]
         if metric > self.best_oracle_acc:
             self.best_oracle_acc = metric
@@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ def update(self, clear_counter=False):
             logger.info("new oracle model saved")
             flag = True
         if self.msel is not None:
-            return self.msel.update(clear_counter)
+            return self.msel.base_update(clear_counter)
         return flag
 
     def if_stop(self):
diff --git a/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_tr_loss.py b/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_tr_loss.py
index 58ca03e21..9c4ee2c54 100644
--- a/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_tr_loss.py
+++ b/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_tr_loss.py
@@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ def reset(self):
     def max_es(self):
         return self._max_es
 
-    def update(self, clear_counter=False):
+    def base_update(self, clear_counter=False):
         """
         if the best model should be updated
         """
diff --git a/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_val.py b/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_val.py
index 054ca56ad..581f3a9b6 100644
--- a/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_val.py
+++ b/domainlab/algos/msels/c_msel_val.py
@@ -39,13 +39,13 @@ def best_te_metric(self):
         """
         return self._best_te_metric
 
-    def update(self, clear_counter=False):
+    def base_update(self, clear_counter=False):
         """
         if the best model should be updated
         """
         flag = True
         if self.observer4msel.metric_val is None:
-            return super().update(clear_counter)
+            return super().base_update(clear_counter)
         metric = self.observer4msel.metric_val[self.observer4msel.str_metric4msel]
         if self.observer4msel.metric_te is not None:
             metric_te_current = self.observer4msel.metric_te[self.observer4msel.str_metric4msel]
diff --git a/domainlab/algos/observers/b_obvisitor.py b/domainlab/algos/observers/b_obvisitor.py
index 04231a917..68ef82632 100644
--- a/domainlab/algos/observers/b_obvisitor.py
+++ b/domainlab/algos/observers/b_obvisitor.py
@@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ def update(self, epoch):
                     self.loader_te, self.device
                 )
                 self.metric_te = metric_te
-        if self.model_sel.update():
+        if self.model_sel.update(epoch):
             logger.info("better model found")
             self.host_trainer.model.save()
             logger.info("persisted")
@@ -102,8 +102,10 @@ def after_all(self):
             metric_te.update({"acc_oracle": -1})
         if hasattr(self, "model_sel"):
             metric_te.update({"acc_val": self.model_sel.best_val_acc})
+            metric_te.update({"model_selection_epoch": self.model_sel.model_selection_epoch})
         else:
             metric_te.update({"acc_val": -1})
+            metric_te.update({"model_selection_epoch": -1})
         self.dump_prediction(model_ld, metric_te)
         # save metric to one line in csv result file
         self.host_trainer.model.visitor(metric_te)
diff --git a/tests/test_msel_oracle.py b/tests/test_msel_oracle.py
index 3dfdd6fbe..8a28567b0 100644
--- a/tests/test_msel_oracle.py
+++ b/tests/test_msel_oracle.py
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@ def mk_exp(
             model_sel.msel._best_val_acc = 1.0
     observer = ObVisitor(model_sel)
     exp = Exp(conf, task, model=model, observer=observer)
-    model_sel.update(clear_counter=True)
+    model_sel.update(epoch=1, clear_counter=True)
     return exp
 
 
@@ -142,7 +142,7 @@ def test_msel_oracle1():
     )
 
     exp.execute(num_epochs=2)
-    exp.trainer.observer.model_sel.msel.update(clear_counter=True)
+    exp.trainer.observer.model_sel.msel.update(epoch=1, clear_counter=True)
     del exp
 
 
@@ -261,5 +261,5 @@ def test_msel_oracle4():
     )
     exp.execute(num_epochs=2)
     exp.trainer.observer.model_sel.msel.best_loss = 0
-    exp.trainer.observer.model_sel.msel.update(clear_counter=True)
+    exp.trainer.observer.model_sel.msel.update(epoch = 1, clear_counter=True)
     del exp