installing Dataverse under Payara 5

[donsizemore]

Umbrella issue to track progress in deploying Dataverse under Payara 5, which is in Alpha as of this writing. The installation currently breaks down in deploying the warfile when creating/starting the EJB timers. I can post/send logs, but Payara 5 is still in Alpha.

[pdurbin]

@donsizemore thanks for opening this issue. I'd be curious to hear more thoughts from you and others on Payara vs. Glassfish. To me, the big difference is that people installing Dataverse can pay for commercial support from Payara if they wish. Also, Payara seems to release security fixes more often than Glassfish, but I haven't studied this closely.

I wanted to mention that I spoke with @smillidge at JavaOne this past week and he said that because Payara 5 will be a major release (going from 4 to 5) they plan to take this opportunity to incorporate additional features into the product. That is to say, just because Glassfish 5 was released a couple weeks ago doesn't mean that we should expect Payara 5 immediately. (For @smillidge 's information, @donsizemore helps with the care and feeding of https://dataverse.unc.edu and https://dataverse.org contains a map where you can see all 26 installations of Dataverse.)

[smillidge]

@donsizemore any logs from failures are useful to the Payara team. The more datapoints we have for people deploying large scale applications like Dataverse to Payara the better.

[pdurbin]

I'm still thinking about Glassfish vs. Payara, especially as I was poking at #4217 a bit today. I took a look at the release dates at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlassFish and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payara_Server and came up with the chart that shows days since previous release:

I think the story it tells (which I already knew to some extent) is that Payara releases much more regularly than Glassfish.

Here's the spreadsheet the chart above is based on: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-BRlfcsByGHmKz8_rkskysSr0LWw8Ou0vBrznCLtb58/edit?usp=sharing

As http://opensourcesurvey.org/2017/ indicates, what users really care about in open source is security and stability:

I suspect that more frequent releases generally means better security. I'm forever patching my Mac and Linux laptops at least.

Also, now that Glassfish is moving to Eclipse, when will the next release be after Glassfish 5.0? https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j/faq says, "Oracle may deliver maintenance releases of GlassFish 5.0." Glassfish feels a bit in limbo at the moment.

@smillidge any idea when Payara 5 will be out? 😄

[pdurbin]

Over at pull request #4244 I got Dataverse running on Glassfish 5. There are a couple changes I had to make that I don't full understand ( 6f72baa and 1530273 ) but the app basically works, I think! 😄

[pdurbin]

@izahn came up with a much better plot for the Glassfish vs. Payara release frequency data I mentioned above (thanks!):

Here's the R script and the data:

• reldates.R.txt
• Glassfish_vs_Payara.csv.txt

[pdurbin]

I just noticed at https://javabot.evanchooly.com/logs/%23glassfish/2018-03-19 that people are chatting about how Payara 5 is out. They linked to https://twitter.com/Payara_Fish/status/975776806539284480

[pdurbin]

Heads up that "Payara 5 requires JDK8u161 or above" according to payara/Payara#2513 (comment)

Hat tip to @donsizemore for this discovery.