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This change adds a guidance_start_token_id in the openai protocol, which allows the guided decoder to wait after seeing this token to skip guided decoding for thinking tokens.

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* reasoning guided decoder

Co-authored-by: Shang-Pin Sheng <shang-pin@deepinfra.com>
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@syuoni Hi Enwei, can you help review this PR?

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Thanks @Shang-Pin for the contribution!

Overall the PR looks good to me. Please take a look at my comments, thanks!

BTW, since TRT-LLM has integrated xgrammar's new structural tag API (#7893), the guide starting control can be equivalently achieved by customizing the structural tags.

/// @brief The detailed guide string. It could be a json schema, a regular expression or a EBNF grammar depending on
/// mGuideType.
std::optional<std::string> mGuide;
std::optional<std::int32_t> mGuidanceStartTokenId;
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NIT: Rename mGuidanceStartTokenId to mGuideStartTokenId, to be consistent with other fields.

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def guidance_started(self) -> bool:
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NIT: Rename guidance_started to is_guide_started

return True


class GrammarMatcherWrapper(GrammarMatcher):
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GrammarMatcher is already a wrapper.

I think it might be an overkill to introduce another wrapper layer just for the guidance starting control. How about extending GrammarMatcher, making it optionally enable the guidance starting control?

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syuoni commented Sep 24, 2025

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Funatiq commented Oct 10, 2025

Thanks @Shang-Pin for the PR!

We should also consider a sequence of tokens instead of a single trigger token to support the openai-harmony format for models like gpt-oss (it would be something like <|channel|>final<|message|>). @syuoni do you think we should do this in this PR or in a follow-up?

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syuoni commented Oct 11, 2025

Thanks @Shang-Pin for the PR!

We should also consider a sequence of tokens instead of a single trigger token to support the openai-harmony format for models like gpt-oss (it would be something like <|channel|>final<|message|>). @syuoni do you think we should do this in this PR or in a follow-up?

I believe this (a sequence of trigger tokens) is already supported if we use structural tag API (#7893), see xgrammar's doc: https://xgrammar.mlc.ai/docs/tutorials/structural_tag.html

I'd prefer using structural tag, because it offloads everything to the grammar backends. Otherwise, if we implement the logics in TRT-LLM, I could imagine the complexity when interacting with speculative decoding.

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