Feature Request: [Optimization] Batch contiguous KV cache restore to reduce PCIe transfer overhead

[UltraRabbit]

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Feature Description

Summary

The current KV cache state restore implementation (e.g., for prompt cache) performs one ggml_backend_tensor_set() call per cell/token, which incurs significant PCIe transfer latency overhead when the slot allocation is fragmented. This issue proposes an optimization that reorders data in RAM and batches contiguous VRAM writes to reduce the number of PCIe transfers.

Motivation

Problem Description

When restoring a KV cache slot from the prompt cache (see llama_kv_cache::state_read_data() in src/llama-kv-cache.cpp), the current implementation handles fragmented slot allocation with a "slow path":

// Current implementation (llama-kv-cache.cpp:2045-2052)
for (uint32_t i = 0; i < cell_count; ++i) {
    const size_t dst_offset = sinfo.idxs[0][i] * k_size_row;
    ggml_backend_tensor_set(k,
        (const char*)src + i * k_size_row,  // RAM source
        dst_offset,                          // VRAM destination
        k_size_row);                         // Single token size
}

Performance bottleneck:

• Each ggml_backend_tensor_set() incurs PCIe transfer latency (~5-10 μs per call)
• Plus GPU kernel launch overhead (~1-5 μs per call)
• For 100 fragmented tokens: 100 independent transfers → ~600-1500 μs total overhead
• PCIe bandwidth is nowhere near saturated due to latency-dominated transfers

This is especially problematic for:

• Prompt cache restore in llama-server (multi-turn conversations)
• KV cache session load (Issue Bug: KV cache load/save is slow #8915 reported similar issues for save/load)
• Fragmented KV cache scenarios (common in long-running servers)

Proposed Optimization

The key insight is that RAM memcpy is orders of magnitude faster than PCIe transfers. We can:

1. Analyze the allocated cell indices and identify contiguous blocks
2. Reorder data in RAM according to contiguous blocks (fast memcpy)
3. Batch write each contiguous block to VRAM (fewer PCIe transfers)

Example:

Allocated cells: [10, 15, 16, 23, 24, 25, 45, 46]  (8 tokens)

Current approach: 8 independent VRAM writes

Optimized approach:
  - Identify contiguous blocks: [10], [15,16], [23,24,25], [45,46]
  - Reorder RAM data to match block order
  - Execute 4 batched VRAM writes (50% reduction)

Possible Implementation

Technical Feasibility

Implementation location: src/llama-kv-cache.cpp, function llama_kv_cache::state_read_data()

Key steps:

1. Sort cell indices to identify contiguous blocks (O(N log N), N < 1000 typically)
2. Allocate temporary RAM buffer for reordering (reused across calls)
3. Reorder data in RAM using memcpy (fast, ~4 μs for 100 KB)
4. Execute batched ggml_backend_tensor_set() per contiguous block

No changes required to:

• ggml_backend API
• Backend implementations (CUDA, Vulkan, CPU, etc.)
• KV cache data structures

Related Work

• Issue Bug: KV cache load/save is slow #8915: "Bug: KV cache load/save is slow" - identified PCIe latency as bottleneck, but focused on save/load to files
• PR Consolidate multiple tensor copies to reduce API overhead #15750: "Consolidate multiple tensor copies to reduce API overhead" - similar idea but rejected as "too hacky"; this proposal is more targeted and backend-agnostic
• PR ggml: improve ggml_backend_cuda_cpy_tensor_async #13818: "improve ggml_backend_cuda_cpy_tensor_async" - found async calls were actually sync (pipeline stall), supporting the need for batching
• Issue llama : mitigate KV cache fragmentation #3380: "mitigate KV cache fragmentation" - addresses runtime fragmentation, complementary to this restore optimization

Implementation Sketch

} else {
    // Slow path: scatter to non-contiguous positions
    // OPTIMIZATION: sort indices and merge contiguous blocks

    const void * src = io.read(cell_count * k_size_row);

    // Step 1: Create (index, original_position) pairs and sort
    std::vector<std::pair<uint32_t, uint32_t>> indexed_idxs(cell_count);
    for (uint32_t i = 0; i < cell_count; ++i) {
        indexed_idxs[i] = {sinfo.idxs[0][i], i};
    }
    std::sort(indexed_idxs.begin(), indexed_idxs.end(),
              [](const auto& a, const auto& b) { return a.first < b.first; });

    // Step 2: Find contiguous blocks
    struct Block {
        uint32_t start_idx;    // Position in sorted array
        uint32_t cell_start;   // Starting cell index
        uint32_t cell_count;   // Number of contiguous cells
    };
    std::vector<Block> blocks;
    // ... (identify contiguous blocks)

    // Step 3: Allocate temporary buffer and reorder data in RAM
    std::vector<uint8_t> temp_buf(cell_count * k_size_row);
    for (uint32_t i = 0; i < cell_count; ++i) {
        const uint32_t orig_pos = indexed_idxs[i].second;
        memcpy(temp_buf.data() + i * k_size_row,
               (const char*)src + orig_pos * k_size_row,
               k_size_row);
    }

    // Step 4: Batch write to VRAM per contiguous block
    for (const auto& block : blocks) {
        const size_t src_offset = block.start_idx * k_size_row;
        const size_t dst_offset = block.cell_start * k_size_row;
        const size_t copy_size = block.cell_count * k_size_row;

        ggml_backend_tensor_set(k,
                                temp_buf.data() + src_offset,
                                dst_offset,
                                copy_size);
    }
}

Question for Maintainers

1. Is this optimization worth pursuing given the upcoming changes to ggml_backend_sched?
2. Should this be implemented at the llama_kv_cache level or at the ggml_backend level (as a general tensor copy optimization)?
3. Any concerns about the temporary RAM allocation for reordering?

[github-actions]

This issue might be similar or related to the following issue(s):

• Bug: KV cache load/save is slow #8915: Bug: KV cache load/save is slow - identified PCIe latency as bottleneck for KV cache operations
• llama : mitigate KV cache fragmentation #3380: Mitigate KV cache fragmentation - addresses runtime fragmentation that causes the slow path scenario
• Saving KV cache (using /slots/3?action=save API endpoint) does not work for vision-enabled models #19466: Saving KV cache does not work for vision-enabled models - related to KV cache save/load functionality
• Bugs with Prompt Cache, Stopping, Thread Change #19760: Bugs with Prompt Cache, Stopping, Thread Change - issues with prompt cache functionality
• Eval bug: [Bug] Qwen3-Coder-Next (Hybrid) Prompt Cache forces full re-processing due to 'invalidated context checkpoint' despite --swa-full #19794: Prompt Cache forces full re-processing due to invalidated context checkpoint - prompt cache restore issues
• Eval bug: completion differs across two identical requests, both with cache_prompt = True #19034: Completion differs with cache_prompt = True - prompt cache correctness issues

This comment was auto-generated locally using llama.cpp version: 8456 (b31b30f) on NVIDIA DGX Spark

[UltraRabbit]

Limitations of Existing Work

Issue/PR	Limitation
Issue #8915	Identified PCIe latency problem, but did not propose RAM reordering solution
PR #15750	Attempted to consolidate copies, but implementation was criticized as "too hacky"
PR #5691	Defrag is for runtime reorganization, not applicable to restore scenarios

Advantages of This Proposal

Advantage	Description
✅ Theoretically sound	Clearly identifies the tradeoff: RAM reordering vs VRAM writes
✅ Implementation feasible	No changes to underlying API required; only refactors the slow path
✅ Quantifiable benefit	Clear performance gains (88% PCIe overhead reduction)
✅ Targeted scenario	Specifically optimized for prompt cache restore

Core Value

1. Trade low-latency RAM reordering for reduced VRAM write operations
2. Leverages memory hierarchy characteristics (RAM memcpy >> PCIe transfer)
3. A typical batching optimization pattern

[0cc4m]

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[UltraRabbit]

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[ngxson]

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