_Originally posted by @hoechenberger in https://github.com/mne-tools/mne-python/issues/12931#issuecomment-2454767000_ @larsoner @cbrnr I think it's caused by this change from #12347 https://github.com/mne-tools/mne-python/pull/12347/files#diff-a6032a51226f9175d84fb340bab2a4238ddc24bf0c0f979bd1921f9d2f54c9fbR2993