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@ggerganov ggerganov commented Mar 20, 2025

ref ggml-org#11875

Avoid usage of common_batch in llama-server.

The only use case that is not covered with this change is embeddings with pooling type == none. In this case, we have to output an embedding vector for each input token.

With the current API, it is a little bit difficult to implement this, without using a helper struct such as common_batch. Moreover, I think that on master there is a bug where the tokens of a given slot could end up separated in different batches which would result in multiple partial results for a single task being emitted. This is probably very rare (requires parallel users and fragmented KV cache), so that's why we haven't experienced it yet.

I am wondering if we should disable the option to have embeddings without pooling for now and figure out how to properly support this in the future.

@ngxson What do you think?

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slot.batch_spec.clear();
slot.batch_spec.add_text(id, slot.n_past, slot.id, true);
//slot.batch_spec.clear();
//slot.batch_spec.add_text(id, slot.n_past, slot.id, true);
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I think these comments can be safely removed since we no longer have notion of common_batch in the code base, these calls are specific to common_batch

@ggerganov ggerganov force-pushed the xsn/private_batch_api_pooling_none branch from 5cebe54 to b8b1732 Compare March 20, 2025 16:20
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ngxson commented Mar 20, 2025

Re. pooling == none, yes I completely agree that we can temporary disable it and reimplement in the future. For now it's only used by TTS so I guess it won't affect much.

Merging this now, thanks!

@ngxson ngxson merged commit bd51d63 into ngxson:xsn/private_batch_api Mar 20, 2025
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* ggml: backend-agnostic tensor parallelism

* support for GPT-OSS, Qwen 3 MoE

* partial Vulkan fix

* add support for 4/8 GPUs

* unconditional peer access

* re-use buffers + ggml contexts

* fix output pattern

* NCCL support

* GGML: HIP: add RCCL support

* Remove shfl and AllReduce from backend interface

* move allocation workaround out of ggml-alloc.c

* 2d tensor set/get support

* Fix the seg fault without NCCL

* Apply suggestion from JohannesGaessler

* support for tensor dims % n_devs != 0

* fix view_offs scaling

* arbitrary num. of GPUs/tensor split

* fix compilation

* better granularity estimate

* Support device-specific host buffer types if all underlying backends expose the same type. This allows using pinned memory instead of pageable memory for CUDA.

Fix compilation errors.

* partial Qwen 3 Next support

* Fix qwen3 30b (#8)

* Fix crash with Qwen-30B-A3B Q4_0

Qwen-30B-A3B Q4_0 has an intermediate dimension of 768. Using a granularity of 256 forces an uneven split between GPUs, which is not supported by the current implementation.

* Decide block size based on tensor quantization type

* Fix crashes due to KV cache serialization (#9)

KV cache serialization requires non-zero offsets on the tensor. Add support in the meta backend to set/get a tensor with a non-zero offset.

* metal : fix build (#7)

* static memory allocations, fix usage count

* fix tensor granularity

* more even memory distribution

* use BF16 for allreduce

* rebase fixup

* better error message for unsupported architectures

* Fix device mismatch during scatter of allReduce. (#11)

There is a mismatch between the dst buffer device and the backend device, causing the use of sync copies

* Enable the previous allreduce implementation. It is better in both perf and stability (#12)

* delay AllReduce for Moe for less I/O

* build : clean-up compile warnings

* backend : move most of the meta backend API to ggml-backend-impl.h

* cont : hide unused public API in the implementation

* llama : use llama_device + remove ggml_backend_dev_is_meta()

* ggml-backend : remove unused alloc include

* minor : remove regex include

* ggml : introduce ggml-ext.h for staging new APIs

* rebase fixup

* fix tests

* llama : more robust logic for determining Meta devices (#16)

* llama : more robust logic for determining Meta devices

* cont : fix devs size check

Co-authored-by: Johannes Gäßler <johannesg@5d6.de>

* cont : fix log type

Co-authored-by: Johannes Gäßler <johannesg@5d6.de>

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Co-authored-by: Johannes Gäßler <johannesg@5d6.de>

* disable roundtrip for meta backend

* fix arch selection

* Qwen 3.5 support

* fix Gemma 4 MoE

* fix OpenVino, SYCL

* fix test-llama-archs for CPU-only builds

* Fix Qwen 3.5 MoE

* disable meta backend tests for WebGPU

* tests : filter CPU-based devices from the Meta backend tests (#17)

* meta : formatting, naming, indentation (#18)

* formatting : llama-model.cpp

* formatting : ggml-ext.h

* formatting : ggml-backend-meta.cpp

* meta : add TODO

* add documentation

* better error messages

* fix GPT-OSS

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Co-authored-by: Carl Philipp Klemm <carl@uvos.xyz>
Co-authored-by: Gaurav Garg <gaugarg@nvidia.com>
Co-authored-by: Georgi Gerganov <ggerganov@gmail.com>
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