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@ynot01 ynot01 commented Jul 23, 2021

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Request Mentor Rat button
polls all mentors that are ghosts
selects from those who said yes
makes imaginary friend who is a rat and can leave when they choose
their name is their ckey
https://forums.yogstation.net/threads/15-mentor-mouse-aka-mrat-ss13-server.22889/

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Request Mentor Rat button in Mentor tab

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@Yogbot-13 Yogbot-13 added the Feature This adds new content to the game label Jul 23, 2021
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mrat mrat mrat mrat mrat mrat mrat

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N3D6 commented Jul 23, 2021

best pr

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Mentor rat is a really horrible and non-descriptive name for anyone new trying to use this.
Name it something that actually conveys what it is about

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Can you verify that imaginary friends can point?

Might also want to check if runechat works, might be a little confusing for a new player if that’s that’s what they’re used to

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ynot01 commented Jul 23, 2021

Mentor rat is a really horrible and non-descriptive name for anyone new trying to use this.
Name it something that actually conveys what it is about

bounty says mrat
if you have any ideas im welcome to them

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Mentor rat is a really horrible and non-descriptive name for anyone new trying to use this.
Name it something that actually conveys what it is about

bounty says mrat
if you have any ideas im welcome to them

Something boring like, request mentor assistance. Maybe make a prompt that tells the person what this is and has a yes/no option, I feel like this might get clicked a lot just to figure out what it does

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ynot01 commented Jul 23, 2021

Mentor rat is a really horrible and non-descriptive name for anyone new trying to use this.
Name it something that actually conveys what it is about

bounty says mrat
if you have any ideas im welcome to them

Something boring like, request mentor assistance. Maybe make a prompt that tells the person what this is and has a yes/no option, I feel like this might get clicked a lot just to figure out what it does

i could do this

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ynot01 commented Jul 23, 2021

Mentor rat is a really horrible and non-descriptive name for anyone new trying to use this.
Name it something that actually conveys what it is about

bounty says mrat
if you have any ideas im welcome to them

Something boring like, request mentor assistance. Maybe make a prompt that tells the person what this is and has a yes/no option, I feel like this might get clicked a lot just to figure out what it does

adjusted verb name & other things referencing the rat, let the rat pseudo-point, made the rat squeak whenever it talks, added a check for if someone already has an mrat
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ynot01 commented Jul 23, 2021

Can you verify that imaginary friends can point?

Might also want to check if runechat works, might be a little confusing for a new player if that’s that’s what they’re used to

Unfortunately, runechat does not work on the rat and my efforts have yielded nothing in face of it.
As for pointing, I have gotten the chat to show but the arrow does not.

As workarounds, I have added a squeak whenever the mrat talks and as for pointing, you can still point but it will not show an arrow. Best to point using your 'physical' body.

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Mentor rat is a really horrible and non-descriptive name for anyone new trying to use this.
Name it something that actually conveys what it is about

bounty says mrat
if you have any ideas im welcome to them

Something boring like, request mentor assistance. Maybe make a prompt that tells the person what this is and has a yes/no option, I feel like this might get clicked a lot just to figure out what it does

Very nice!

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Can you verify that imaginary friends can point?
Might also want to check if runechat works, might be a little confusing for a new player if that’s that’s what they’re used to

Unfortunately, runechat does not work on the rat and my efforts have yielded nothing in face of it.
As for pointing, I have gotten the chat to show but the arrow does not.

As workarounds, I have added a squeak whenever the mrat talks and as for pointing, you can still point but it will not show an arrow. Best to point using your 'physical' body.

I’ll look into it

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Okay so I love the idea but I have to downvote this for the reason I posted on the forums 6 months ago

I get the meme and haha funny but since this is more aimed at new players who lack the basic knowledge required to bootstrap learning new things based on text alone, a rat has too much potential to be confusing and leaving people wondering what the fuck is happening. If this is to be, it really should be clearly marked as an OOC component and not a potentially IC one. Not everyone is into mentor "culture"

You see rats wondering around the station in game, you see player controlled rats wondering around the station in game. SS13 is a very confusing game with an insane learning curve especially early on, making players understand that the rat is not only not a real rat but will offer them OOC guidance (which blurs the lines between IC and OOC, causing the player issues with rules later on) will result into an unintuitive learning experience to satisfy a "haha mrat" meme.

Again, the idea is great but the execution is terrible, I believe the best way to handle this would be with a modified AI camera sprite which can speak such as this: amentor

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After arguing on discord it seems noone cares what I think so hahaha funny mrat i love this pr

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maxion12345 commented Jul 23, 2021

After arguing on discord it seems noone cares what I think so hahaha funny mrat i love this pr

Good, good! Embrace the mrat

Speaking of, can they pet the mrat?
Also "request mentor assistance" is meh. What about "Summon mentor assistant"?

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Smudged commented Jul 23, 2021

After arguing on discord it seems noone cares what I think so hahaha funny mrat i love this pr

Well I will say these are valid critisisms, maybe making the rat visually distinct would help relax confusion, it's something important to look at and I hope people take your criticism into perspective.

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does it walk fast enough to keep up with the player?

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ynot01 commented Jul 24, 2021

its green now

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ynot01 commented Jul 24, 2021

does it walk fast enough to keep up with the player?

it can go through walls and moves at ghost speeds

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ynot01 commented Jul 24, 2021

lots of new stuff see top post for screenshots

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JamieD1 commented Jul 24, 2021

Make it the mentor colour!

@JamieD1 JamieD1 merged commit 3acf2a3 into yogstation13:master Jul 24, 2021
@Yogbot-13 Yogbot-13 added the DME Edit This PR affects the yogstation.DME file label Jul 24, 2021
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@ynot01 ynot01 changed the title mrat [Bounty] mrat Jul 24, 2021
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This reverts commit 3acf2a3.
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Moja10 commented Jul 24, 2021

My holopad suggestion was not implemented, Literally 1984

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