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title: Nov 13, 2007
author:
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author_login: cqwww
author_email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
date: '2007-11-13'
categories:
- Victoria
tags:
- Nov13
- '2007'
- Victoria
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## Agenda

* Our meeting will start at 19:00 after [green drinks](http://www.biothinking.com/greendrinks/index.php?country=Canada&city=Victoria,%20BC).
* One of our members will be doing a Q&A on all things "green"
* [Victoria Car Share Co-op](http://www.victoriacarshare.ca/) will present at 19:30

## Meeting Minutes

Tonight's meeting followed [Victoria's Green
Drinks](http://www.greendrinks.org/) meeting. An update on the municipal
mesh networking project, the meraki units are not ready for prime time
yet. Also, we attended the city hall planning for the downtown core and
an update was provided.

[Earthling](http://archive.ideasmeetings.org/wiki/User:Earthling
"User:Earthling") spoke about [EarthChurch](http://www.earthchurch.net/).

A manager from [Victoria Car Share Co-
op](http://www.victoriacarshare.ca/) came and spoke about their
program. The summary is $400 deposit, $10/monthly and 2.55/hr and $0.38/km
when using a vehicle. The fleet consists of ten cars, two trucks and a
minivan, and 9 or 10 more vehicles will be added in the new year as part
of a deal with dockside green. Vehicle maintenance, repairs, cleaning,
insurance, administration, and even fuel is provided by the co-op.

We went slightly off-topic at this stage and into general discussion. Mostly about:

* [XO Giving](http://www.laptopgiving.org/) Between November 12 and November 26, OLPC is offering a Give One Get One program in the United States and Canada.
* Population control; should we start to limit it, or do we benefit from more intelligent people being born to join the intelligent people collective.
* Ideals; instead of happiness, perhaps "being present" is what really matters.

The URLs that were mentioned:

* [CouchSurfing](http://www.couchsurfing.com/) is a free international Internet-based hospitality service, and currently the largest hospitality exchange network.
* [WWOOF](http://www.wwoof.org/) organizations compile a list of organic Host farms that (from time to time) welcome volunteer help. There were two negative experiences shared, but it was agreed that in order to appreciate the good you have to have the bad :)
* [Global free loaders](http://www.globalfreeloaders.com/) The Worldwide Free Accommodation Network.
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author:
display_name: cqwww
login: cqwww
email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
url: ''
author_login: cqwww
author_email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
date: '2007-11-20'
categories:
- Victoria
tags:
- Nov20
- '2007'
- Victoria
---

## Agenda

* Order beer
* Update on wireless mesh networking/meriaki units
* Update on marketing (posters)
* Creation of [Projects](http://archive.ideasmeetings.org/wiki/Projects "Projects")
* Discuss compensating presentations longer than 20 minutes with a beer

## Presentation

The presentation will be called "Life Hacks" (a la the website Mind Hacks). I
am going to propose a practical methodology for dramatically improved quality
of life via improved processes. I suspect that I will use a software
development analogy - drawing parallels from my work in software engineering
and quality and process improvement to the subject of life re-engineering. A
bit of psychology wrapped around a geeky metaphor.

What I propose each potential attendee do is prepare one Life Hack that has
dramatically improved the quality of your life that we can discuss after my
presentation.

Format for your Hack:

1. Describe an area of your life that you determined needed improvement. Try a one sentence description that is clear (and catchy!)
2. Describe the technique you used to try and improve the area.
3. Describe the results of your life hack...

Thats about it - I will talk about a particular process for increasing the
quality of life (which I will invent this weekend) We can share about
different Life Hacks that we have tried out and the results of them --- perhaps
we can come up with a plan to try out someone else's hack in your life for the
week...

This will be documented on the project page:
[Debugging_our_lives](http://archive.ideasmeetings.org/wiki/Debugging_our_lives
"Debugging our lives")

## Meeting Minutes

* We had two new members at our meeting
* add a link to [wiki syntax guide](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page)
* Our presenter proposed flash cards, but other members proposed we install SVN or some type of CVS, and start to log our bugs.
* We now have a dedicated table if we call on Tuesdays, and even better, we get half price apps if you're with the Yashy Idea Society!
* We discussed project planning your life, vs some members who live mostly by participating with chaos
* There was a recommended book, "Your money or your life"
* We should agree on how IP issues will be handled, it was suggested we use creative commons for our meetings, the same as is used on this wiki.
* At the beginning of our meetings, we will now have a language portion, where all members say a word in a different language (or something like sign language), to be used by the end of the meeting
* We discussed if we would compensate speakers with a beer, and voted against this idea

It was propose that we follow the software development piece of debugging, for debugging our own lives.

* ban the word "and" from bug reports, otherwise it could be multiple issues, and perhaps even [E-prime](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime)
* bugs (problems needing debugging) must be atomic + consice
* We tend to prioritize elsewhere, and often debugging ourselves is not even on our priority list
* one of the challenges is determining the actual bug, and not looking elsewhere
* evaluate/debug your marriage annually
* ask an expert to determine a bug
* get someone else to debug your bug
* try cognitive therapy instead of traditional
* you choose your own bugs and prioritize them, no one else cares about your bugs but you
* choosing the right tool, such as:

painting
intuition
meditation
dreams
luck
prayer
reading
luck
consulting with experts


* find bugs that have already been resolved

We agreed that reflection/meditation time should be a required part of your
day, and most of us don't dedicate any "quiet time". It was suggested that
getting to know your intuitive, non-rational side should be more of a
priority, and only using your rational side as a tool. One member mentioned
that for any irrational fear he has had, he challenged it head on and it
resulted in great growth. We touched on the term "Social currency" which I
would like to see the group discuss further, perhaps it will tie in with the
image consultant next week.
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author:
display_name: cqwww
login: cqwww
email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
url: ''
author_login: cqwww
author_email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
date: '2007-11-27'
categories:
- Victoria
tags:
- Nov27
- '2007'
- Victoria
---

## Agenda

* Order beer
* Updates on [Projects](http://archive.ideasmeetings.org/wiki/Projects "Projects")
* Presentations

## Presentation

* Mirror Mirror image consulting will be presenting and answering questions
* Discussion on "social currency"

## Minutes

These are the loosely noted minutes, feel free to edit if you attended.

* We judge each other the moment we first see each other. When looking at pants, people prefer dark wash & straight legged
* We will formulate a plan to contact the head of various UVic faculties to speak
* It was suggested we are a grassroots think tank
* It was brought to the table if we should incorporate spanking as the masons do. Like most things, this makes sense in context.
* Any non-commercial organization can use this wiki to provide information about their organization, as long as they agree to allow discussion on the subject, and there is no link to buy. (A link can be provided to the organization's website)
* [Model Mayhem](http://www.modelmayhem.com/results.php?group_id=1&country=CA&state=British+Columbia&dist=5&zip=&sort=joined_time&display=detail&namesearch2=&age_from=1988&age_to=1956&gender=Both&from_feet=3&from_inches=0&to_feet=7&to_inches=11&ethnicity_id=Any&skin_color_id=Any&hair_color_id=Any&hair_length_id=Any&eye_color_id=Any&test=&searchtype=profile&submit=Search) is a website for non-commercial models/photographers
* A talk was requested, "How to start a social group"
* Open question to the society, what talks would you like to hear?
* The last member to get to the table is the secretary (minute taker) for the night.
* At the end we brought up the idea of keeping the discussion groups to 6 people. So if there are 8+ people, the other two would start a new table, for example. This will be discussed on the mailing list.
* The speaker should sit at the head of the table to maximize voice projection. Up to 9 people should be able to sit at our reserved two table space
* We will send the manager a thank you card, for making us one of two groups that gets reserved table seating, and the only group to get "Happy hour" outside the scheduled time.
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author:
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login: cqwww
email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
url: ''
author_login: cqwww
author_email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
date: '2007-12-11'
categories:
- Victoria
tags:
- Dec11
- '2007'
- Victoria
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## Agenda

* Order a beer
* Update on the Ottawa YIS meeting
* Discussion on the (non) convenience of financial institutions

## Minutes

* I realize that I wasn't the last one to arrive and yet still took minutes...
* [steampunk workshop](http://steampunkworkshop.com/)
* [Christian Science Monitor](http://www.csmonitor.com/) was recommended by a couple members
* One of our members is a card carrying member of the "compassion club" where he gets medicinal marijuana. He mentioned how sativa is the more mentally stimulating strain of marijuana, yet indica is the type most users get "off the street".
* wonder if THC could be a replacement for ridalin
* discussion if we should be replacing marijuana with alcohol for legal purchase. Not many violent crimes committed by marijuana smokers.
* [anandamide](http://www.news-medical.net/?id=32240)
* [Hemp hearts are apparently great for lowing blood pressure, and if you have arthritis](http://www.hempfood.com/info/hemp-hearts.html). If you're in Victoria, the hemp & clothing company sells them in a big yogurt container.
* society is consensus
* In Ontario, it was suggested that consensus is a lot more narrow due to density. The idea is that most people must do the same thing
* If marijuana was legalized in Canada, Americans would cut off trade due to their "war on drugs"
* We discussed proxy voting
* We had a long talk about how not many projects are coming out of the society, because not good information is going in. We need to start clearly articulating our questions and discussion if we want better results.
* **Project** : Research why does Halifax financially sustain from its [recycling](http://archive.ideasmeetings.org/wiki/Recycling "Recycling") program when no other city in Canada does?
* **Project** : We would like to make a hydrogen powered [blimp](http://archive.ideasmeetings.org/wiki/Blimp "Blimp").
* How are you? No one cares, it is simply a social pleasantry
* Edward Debono has a book on quantifying conversation
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url: ''
author_login: cqwww
author_email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
date: '2007-12-18'
categories:
- Victoria
tags:
- Dec18
- '2007'
- Victoria
---

## Contents

1 Agenda
2 Minutes
2.1 Main presentation
2.2 Other discussion

## Agenda

The general manager of [SPUD](https://www.spud.ca/) Vancouver Island
will explain the SPUD program and answer our questions.

## Minutes

### Main presentation

* [Spud.ca](https://www.spud.ca/) buy from local producers, provide delivery service
* Other organizations mentioned: CityFarming Lifecycles - tree fruit project 1/3
to owner, 1/3 to org, 1/3 to charity
* Carbon footprint available, goal is to become carbon neutral 10% by 2008
* Each spud group is a separate incorporation -no plans on going public yet
Looking at delivery franchises
* Part of two coops Keating Farm Coop Values Chain Coop Long discussion ensues
about Cooperatives and their business model
* Discussion ensues about “chain of value” and how money flows back to the
farmer to encourage farming on Vancouver Island
* Questions raised about transparency of profit inside this business model and
answered
* Coop was working with “coop consultant” to setup. Group suggests looking at
other coops to avoid common problems. Again it is noted that this group has
already hired a consultant to do just that.
* Discussion of values chain and example given of sheep farmers and processors
* Group moderator mentions an interest in setting up IT for group in order to
become part of value chain.
* Discussion about profit margins on goods, growth opportunities, limitations to
growth, affordablilty of foodstuffs offered. Discussion about lowering
production costs on food.
* Discussion about “what is organic”. Good looking group member raises question
about the different classifications of goods “certified organic” “transitional
organic” “non-certified organic”.
* Spuds.ca is not interested in carrying non-organic(cally produced) food.
* Discussion on meat as food (natural, locally produced) by a member with
farming experience. Discussion of non-traditional meat sources and sale
through spud.ca
* Discussion on the food inspection agency and locally produced meat.
* Summary of spud.ca
* Guest leaves

### Other discussion

* [QR codes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code) could be used for food item nutritional information
* [Crannog ales](http://www.crannogales.com/)
* Why isn't there mutton bacon?
* One of our members can't drive, it was suggested he join the cost-effective co-op, and hire a homeless person with a licence to drive him around, which would probably end up cheaper than taking a taxi, and thus creates some employment
* Discussed how people determine the value of their time when calculating costs
* [History of Christmas](http://www.cracked.com/article_15719_pagan-orgies-human-sacrifice-bizarre-origins-christmas.html)
* [Confessions of a slacker](http://gridfarm1.undergroundfilm.org/media/march2006/1032334_lar.mov) was just given a million dollar budget to become a feature film
* Movie: [Ghost Dog](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165798/)
* [Aesop's fable](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesop's_Fables) have an interesting history, and are not the "child friendly cartoons they're made out to be"
* [The sin of onan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan) is interpreted by oppressors as suggesting masturbation is evil, but it can easily be argued that is not the point of the story at all
* draw jam -- blog
* **Project:** [pirate drive-in](http://archive.ideasmeetings.org/wiki/Pirate_drive-in "Pirate drive-in")
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author:
display_name: cqwww
login: cqwww
email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
url: ''
author_login: cqwww
author_email: kris@onedaywebsite.ca
date: '2008-01-15'
categories:
- Victoria
tags:
- Jan15
- '2008'
- Victoria
---

## Agenda

* Order beer
* Presentation by Craig C on his [Axial Flux Electric motor ](http://www.saers.com/~craig/pmg/TurquoiseEnergyMPMG.html) as well as his mechanical power transmission assembly for the demo wave powered electricity generator
* Answer the [Junta questions list](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junto#The_Questions)
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